ATX Metal Podcast

Ryan Rayle (00:01.502)
What is up everybody? Ryan ATX Metal Podcast back with some hometown favorites, Tibetan sky burial. I'm gonna let these guys kick off this Sunday afternoon. if you like sludge, if you like slow, but also if you like riffs and all kinds of stuff in between, these are your guys. I actually enjoy listening to y'all's style of music specifically on Sunday mornings, just because it kind of has this. Yeah, it almost, yeah, exactly. And that was.

Ed (00:27.253)
Sunday worship.

Ryan Rayle (00:31.32)
has some type of worship. And I remember a buddy of mine got into my car and it's playing Blightfeeder from San Antonio. And as soon as you get in the car, like that's just what plays cause it's on physical CDs. So like for some reason, CD takes priority and it just kind of hit me. like, you know what? Yeah, Blightfeeder might not be the thing to kick your day off, but you guys could, I could start my day every day with your type of music.

Ed (00:46.303)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (00:59.18)
So with that said, introduce yourselves, what you guys do, where you're from, and then we'll just kind of go from there.

Ed (01:05.545)
Yeah. Rick Fernandez, lead vocals founder of the band and rhythm guitarist. Ed, I play the bass and I clearly bass players. Happy to be here.

Ryan Rayle (01:20.248)
Just...

Ed (01:22.731)
He also plays bass in Venustra. He plays bass for Tibetan Sky Burial also used to being Phoenix Recoil. He's a busy man. He's got bang over real hard going on right now because he just finished playing, you know, three shows in 24 hours. And technically if you want to go Forebode shows in three days. Yeah, he's beat to death right now. for Butcher Babies and we Frights and Sounds yesterday for both bands. on Wednesday we were playing Valhalla with Bruka, Illusion of Fainting, Yo Tumor.

Yeah, Wednesday was a long day. Yeah, played at midnight and I go to work at Forebode, excuse me, I wake up for work at Forebode usually, but that day I was like, no, I'm calling it half day. So I went in at 10 and still there at work just like, what the fuck am I doing?

Ryan Rayle (02:03.576)
Like, what? I just, I don't, I can't remember where on the set on the sample pad. There it is. There it is. I just.

Ed (02:06.623)
Do it for the love.

the

Ryan Rayle (02:15.854)
You guys. I OK, a yes, where it's 10 o'clock. Do you know where your kids are? Shout out, shout out to that old. If you remember that commercial, we can be friends. But man, I struggle to find the time. Let me take that back. I struggled to make the time to do this podcast sometimes. And you're just talking about ripping for. Four shows in three days.

Ed (02:16.117)
keeps me out of trouble.

Ed (02:22.763)
They're at the show playing music, not doing drugs. yeah.

Ryan Rayle (02:46.102)
And here you are doing an interview to promote even more shows. Like, Ed, what do you, bro, what do you do for, can I just ask what you do for a day job or jog everybody's memory?

Ed (02:57.215)
Yeah. I would get a call center, work from home, a customer service for cell phone companies and stuff. So it's a regular nine to five and that's pretty much it. He likes staying busy. I work in a laboratory reviewing paperwork for plasma and basically I'm problem solving all day and making sure all the T's are crossed. All the I's are dotted for the FDA.

Ryan Rayle (03:02.797)
Okay.

Ryan Rayle (03:06.465)
Rick, what about you, bud?

Ed (03:21.215)
Yeah. Not, not, not the funnest job to go into it with a bang over. Cause I'm like, my God. have to think this morning. God damn it. All right. I'm trying to be here putting on the show.

Ryan Rayle (03:21.324)
What so you

Ryan Rayle (03:30.446)
man, that's so see there you go everybody. They're just regular ass people. Just and that's not a slight. I don't think as like a regular. But but they but they grind and they hustle for not only y'all's entertainment, obviously, because if you didn't want to do it, then then you wouldn't. But I can only imagine that there's a lot there's there's this layer baked into.

Ed (03:34.953)
regular ass dudes.

Ed (03:51.968)
Exactly.

Ryan Rayle (03:57.708)
your performances that are strictly, I'm doing this for you. Like this brings me pleasure in some weird way. And I think that's one of the reasons why I really wanted to have a local such as you guys on our showcase in December 7th. I don't know if, whoever's, all the 14 people listening to this by the time it comes out, you just heard that.

Ed (04:05.616)
yeah. Absolutely.

Ed (04:23.947)
Yeah

Ryan Rayle (04:26.53)
They to this is the first announcement. Do I have the thing there?

Ed (04:31.593)
Hmm.

Ryan Rayle (04:33.89)
Tibetan Sky Burial gonna be on the ATX Metal Podcast 10 year anniversary showcase melting your faces off with smooth smooth melodies. And I.

Ed (04:41.999)
Yes, proudly. Very stoked to be on this bill. Some Black in Sunday worship music. Yeah, well, I will add that to our ever growing list of genres underneath our name on Bandcamp. Post sludge, black in worship Sunday.

Ryan Rayle (04:54.574)
But I feel that, and this is just you guys just being you, just putting forth the effort to get out and gig and play music for the people. Money be damned, this is more passion, right?

Ed (05:13.163)
It started with just the love of, yeah.

Ryan Rayle (05:15.712)
So for those I'll shut up now. I'm sorry. I'll be quiet. I just like laying on just accolade after accolade. I'm just I'm very happy to finally start getting into, you know, eight, eight weeks to go by the time this comes out, seven weeks to go. And, know, I get to look forward to this every year and build a lineup that I think is worth their salt. And you guys are definitely you're worth the whole table full of salt, if you know what I'm saying.

Ed (05:32.331)
That's all right.

Ed (05:41.205)
Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it

Ryan Rayle (05:43.714)
For those that aren't familiar with Tibetan Sky Burial and its history, since we have all the time in the world, let's take people on a journey. Just like your music. Your songs are long, but they're meant to be that way.

Ed (05:56.969)
Yeah, it's introspective music. That's really what it is at end of the day.

Ryan Rayle (05:59.372)
So Rick, Mr. Founder, take it away, dude. Tell us about Tibetan Sky Burial.

Ed (06:04.139)
I'll give you the brief tour of the history of it. I started the, the roots of it were like 2016. was in a,

instrumental do metal band called cactus drew it and playing guitar on that was having fun. And I kind of, and I want to do my own thing. So, you know, slow start first time I'm really taking this undertaking of a band, you know, go through like cycling through people, trying to meet people that whole bit, you know, luckily I lived in a recording studio with two brothers, the gov brothers, fear and wrong. And, we've got their own band seek irony. you know, Rom, if you played in a metal band in this town, he's the town and everybody loves him because he slays.

Ryan Rayle (06:32.618)
yeah, Kefir and Ram.

Ryan Rayle (06:40.188)
Hahaha

Ed (06:42.759)
but you know, they were, they were really helpful and great in getting me my first start on just, know, a band, right? Like I've never, I've joined bands, been in a project, never just did the whole undertaking of myself. So 2019 I'm recording. I don't really have all the permanent lineup members there yet. I meet Brian Stevens, my old bass player and him and I get this thing, you know, off the ground finally. And,

We reached a point where it was like, okay, Rom's going to be the drummer. You know, he's working for us. We can, you know, my friend Shane was filling on a guitar. used to be in a band called Empty Trail. And then, now we're just like, okay, we need a vocalist. So we're just doing the whole gauntlet run of vocalist after vocalist after vocalist. And it's not working out. We're trying, you know, and the project, you know, for me, my listening tastes are rooted in like 90s grunge, you know, metal, obviously, but underground metal as well. But I was coming from a place that time where I listening heavily to like,

Ed (07:42.854)
Deftones Tool, know, like a lot of the new metal stuff, but then also, you know, like a lot of black metal. Like I was kind of a late bloomer in the underground genres, like, you know, in my probably in my early twenties, when I started listening to that, some people started, you know, yay high, right? So I was just really deep diving in on the black and stuff. So.

Ryan Rayle (07:46.177)
Right.

Ed (08:04.139)
You know, Brian comes in and his vocals are low and high, know, and, he was going to do backups. can't find the singers. Like, let's just do it ourselves. So he convinces me to do it. Never, never even done a vocal before. I was like, all right, screw it. Like, guess, right. Exactly.

Ryan Rayle (08:17.304)
mean, you don't have to go looking anymore. you know, the search is over, Yeah.

Ed (08:21.291)
Which is the story of every other famous vocalist, right? Like apparently that's what happened with Metallica. So I think James wasn't the vocalist originally. just said, screw it. Well, I'll do it. You know, it's, it's, if you look at the history of a lot of big bands, that's how it happened. They're just like, well, nobody else is doing it. Screw it. I'll do it.

Ryan Rayle (08:36.479)
Yeah, it comes out of necessity versus, you know.

Ed (08:40.221)
Exactly. Yeah. And then the pressure's on yourself because you're like, well, I suck. That's on me. So.

Ryan Rayle (08:45.558)
Right? dude, can't I mean that go I think that goes it's a very good analogy, I guess that words of wisdom is like, like if it sucks, like it's on me. And I mean, that goes for

Ed (08:56.787)
Yeah. And I had to trick myself into like believing I could do this because in beginning I was like, my God, I do suck. This is bad. And there were, we even put out an early, there, it up until recently it was on bandcamp, but I took it off. we did have an early demo of, of, death and delusion. That's probably the favorite track off our first album. six minute banger.

Ryan Rayle (09:01.102)
Yeah

Ed (09:18.783)
But my vocals were so different, you know, think one of my favorite YouTube comments that we had was like something along the lines of like sounds like, don't want to listen to a guy, reciting poetry with a cold because that's what it's basically what I sounded like. Like a Christian Bale just singing poems, you know, and, graduated to like finally like believe in myself and like, all right, you know, watch some videos, you know, like I can be better about this. Got some techniques going and you know,

five years later, you know, I've kind of figured some things out and you know, gotten a bit better at it. Yeah. Still, still room, lots of room, you know, for improvement, I'm, I'm feeling a lot more grounded in what I'm doing.

Ryan Rayle (09:53.464)
Sure.

Ed (09:56.683)
But yeah, so, you know, to come roundabout to the original question, you know, the band's history. So that's, you know, 2020 and then, you know, everyone's lives flipped on an instant. know, Brian had to leave the band for personal reasons. Shane that are moving back North Carolina. Well, that was actually in 22. We temporarily had Roman of Aaerial He was going to basically do two. It was the last straw for the vocalist idea. Well, there was a point where.

Ryan Rayle (10:07.363)
Mm-hmm.

Ryan Rayle (10:24.792)
Hahaha!

Ed (10:26.709)
He was the last hope. Because he's so bad, right? I can't sing, we're the shit. Terrible. Why do people even like it? No. He's a good friend of ours.

Ryan Rayle (10:29.986)
Yeah, cause he sucks so bad and he looks so terrible. Like God.

I look at him and I'm like, metalhead. No, thank you. actually, actually.

Ed (10:40.971)
Ugh.

Ed (10:45.13)
look at that. nice. Nice shirt.

Ryan Rayle (10:46.55)
Yeah, dude, real quick. For those listening, I'm wearing one of my favorite local hats of all time. I don't know why. think it's so it's Aaerial. We were just talking about Roman of Aaerial. He's the vocalist. And I have I mean, it's it's just a black trucker hat with green lettering because that's their vibe. Dark green or bright lime green. But anyway, this is my fourth one. I have lost three. Well, I'm sorry, I gave one away.

to just some random dude, we traded a weird story. I'll get to it later, but I just ended up doing, he gave me like a cardigan and I gave him a hat and I don't know why.

Ed (11:21.515)
Metal card again. That's a fair deal.

Ryan Rayle (11:24.13)
Right. You know, I should wear it to the show. It looks so fashionable. So then I bought another one to replace the one I gave away. Because, you know, I feel like it was supporting, you know, if I give this hat away, it's not like, man, I gave that hat away. Like, no, I feel like I just gave a piece of, you know, local band to another, you know, because people are going to be like, you know, who's that? What's that? What's Aaerial? I don't know. I got it from some guy that gave my cardigan.

Ed (11:28.101)
It would be appropriate.

Ed (11:45.791)
Yeah. Yeah. What brand is that? it's a band.

Ryan Rayle (11:54.21)
But anyway, so I lost another one. Like I've lost. I've left one at come and take it. we were upstairs. I forget what show it was for, but I just, I last place I saw it was upstairs. So then I bought another one and then I lost that one. So this is number Forebode. So Aaerial, as long as you have me as a fan, I will continue to buy hats. I'll keep you guys in the hat, in the hat game. So anyway, sorry to cut you off Rick. just, that was

Ed (12:10.538)
Wow.

Ed (12:14.741)
He's gonna keep you guys in business. That business, yeah.

Ed (12:23.221)
I know you're good, man. That was a worthy story. Cardigan hat, Forebode hats.

Ryan Rayle (12:24.29)
Golly. Yes. All right. Cardigan hat, cardigan hats, hats. I mean, it's barter system, bro. Like, come on.

Ed (12:30.547)
Yeah, man. no, yeah, the shirt for certain. I for now. That's for patch.

Ryan Rayle (12:33.742)
All right, so Romans the last straw and then.

Ed (12:37.715)
Yeah. Yeah. Last draw. And so we, we, we do one song with him, you know, it's the latest thing that we have out. called your cruna. we almost didn't put it out, but we were like, you know, we put some time, there was a hot minute where the, the span direction was going to change a minute. So we threw that out. Your cruna. Nice. Sweet. Actually good. Yeah. That's legible. That's what I do for a living. I look at legibility on handwriting. But yeah.

Ryan Rayle (12:50.114)
the number one thing on my list. Number one thing. You probably can't see it from there, but I'm not lying. Okay.

man.

Ed (13:04.491)
So yeah, you know, he, and you know, he had some, some, some, some personal things going on there for a second. So him and Shane had left the same time. So I just moved in with Ed and then I was like, it'd been a month here I was like, and he just joined the band. All And so I'm just like looking at him and like, Hey man, if you want to do this, it's going to take both of us. If not, may be done. Right. I was like, cause I don't know what to do right now. Like we just rebuilt, we re re we were building the vehicle again and the wheels fell off again. I was just like, I don't know if I have it in me to do this again by myself or like the

third time at that point, I've lost track. And so then, know, him and I have been grinding away for a few years, gone through a gauntlet of drummers, hire, you know, some not. We just landed. Kay, she just played her first show with us Wednesday at Valhalla She did a great job. And she played with us last night at Frights and Sounds in San Marcos at Rail Yard. And we, know, getting some reps in, you know, finally, like, you know, we're.

Ryan Rayle (13:55.633)
nice.

Ed (13:59.753)
getting the band dynamic with Forebode permanent members and it's nice. You know, she's got the chops and you know, we just got to iron out some stuff. It's how it always goes. It's normal, you know, but we're, we're happy to be locked and loaded because we can really push this thing farther. Writing will be easier, just everything in general, you know.

Just having that stability makes everything flow that much easier. But Ed's been my solid, you know? He would have been tanked several times without him. I keep shingled together. He's the master of knowing everybody, playing in everybody's band, and that as well.

Ryan Rayle (14:35.102)
I think you're going to take you're going to take old dude spot is like, if you know this guy, then you've then you've played with him. You know what I mean? Yeah, the new ROM, right? Like here, pass the pass the torch. So that's that's amazing, man. I think I think that it just goes to show if. If it doesn't work out the first time, OK, next in the next.

Ed (14:42.495)
Yeah, yeah, I'm working my way up to the ROM level, you know, it is the bass ROM, the bass ROM.

Ryan Rayle (15:03.89)
And like you just keep going until you just know.

Ed (15:06.699)
It's a test of endurance. Do you really want this? Do you really care about it? Because if you do, you'll just keep pursuing it regardless of whatever obstacles come up.

Ryan Rayle (15:11.33)
Right.

Ryan Rayle (15:15.405)
Right.

Ed (15:15.595)
life comes up in the middle of all this, know, him and I've had plenty of plenty of things, small and larger go on in the last three years that, you know, affect our lives individually together, whatever, where it's just like, all right, we'll deal with this. We still got to do that. You know, like the summer, you know, AC's out and I'm doing demos and a hundred degree heat in the house. We had AC out for a week, like a weekend, 10 days actually.

And I'm sitting there like with these two songs that were demoing, like I had to get them out to three different drummers because schedules didn't align and we had to play with three different drums for three different shows. So I'm sending brand new songs to three different drummers. I'm doing vocals, a hundred degree heat, you know, and just like, it's gotta be done. All right.

Ryan Rayle (15:47.938)
Wait, so you, so because you didn't have a drummer and because you had so many shows, you had to submit, you had to hand over your demo of a brand new song to three different people and you played a show with three different drummers.

Ed (16:02.793)
Yeah, yeah, and him and I.

Ed (16:07.679)
Yeah, essentially. Yeah. Yeah, I keep it going, man. Yeah. Him and I have learned how to how to play through adversity. You know, we kind of like this came up last night where it's like there's the chaos of the show. It's everything, you know, leading up to that moment where you're, you know, all the pressure like you go to rehearsal and you play, you know, you got AC on, you're comfortable, you're sitting down, you've got a full belly. You haven't been to work. You feel great. You go to a show.

Ryan Rayle (16:09.464)
Holy shit dude. What?

God.

Ryan Rayle (16:35.415)
Right.

Ed (16:36.297)
You got bang over two hours sleep. haven't eaten anything. You're just dying for a beer of food. And you're sitting there in the hot heat in a venue that the AC is going out the door because the garage door hangers open. You get on stage and for the 10th time, which never happens in rehearsal, you have no sound. And so you're like, what the fuck is going on? And then you realize, we moved the cab over and it unplugged the speaker cable. As you're trying to do sound check, you plug it in, you go up and you get the stuff from the the playback. She's like, great, like.

Ryan Rayle (16:52.515)
Yeah

Ryan Rayle (16:57.365)
Ha!

Ed (17:02.827)
you you're doing all your tests and everything, you start playing, you can't hear shit. And you just go with it. And it's just him and I have done been in so many different situations with different drummers, different stages and things. You just get used to it and you can't teach that stuff. can't stuff you can't learn sitting at home. Stuff you learn along the way. just made him and I tighter and better. You know, just the chaos of a show. You just go through those little moments and you just get better and learn from it. Things you don't think about, but it's just all in the window of maybe like this all happens like two, three minutes. Yeah. And just the anxiety in your brain is the wheels are

Ryan Rayle (17:31.107)
Yeah.

Ed (17:32.781)
going like shit shit focus folks ignore all this nonsense okay cool that's the problem minor problem fixer next go to the next problem minor problem fix great okay sound check let's

Ryan Rayle (17:42.414)
Dude, that's... God, hold on. My, let's see, what's my... Just from listening to that story, my heart rate is... 90... Wow! 93... I don't know if I can... it went out. Like, I got anxiety...

Ed (17:49.876)
Hahaha

Yeah.

Ed (17:58.221)
I know I've shaved off five years of my life between my job and doing this stuff. At least I was going to be 89. I'm definitely going out at 84.

Ryan Rayle (18:08.138)
I would man that is that's a lot of weight to carry man. That's a poof. mean, I know that the like once you get on stage and you just know, Hey, what's up? We're Tibetan sky burial or you just go right into a lick. You just like fuck it. I'll announce it later.

Ed (18:28.043)
Depends depends on how chaotic my brain is sometimes I remember say we're too bad skyboard do a little thing the other times if you see me out of showing up we just started because some shit was going on I was like I don't fucking know let's go. I did all that I'll catch up on the second song

Ryan Rayle (18:36.76)
Do you know, I didn't even think about that because, you know, a of, because a part of being a good band is also knowing your set time and you're, you know, on and off, you gotta get the change over. Yeah.

Ed (18:47.155)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is very important, One of the biggest things, most super important, is like being courteous to other bands, being respectful of.

not just the other bands, but the venue, the stage crew, because they gotta like go in and change over the mics for the drums. there's a lot, it's not just you, there's like everybody's participating in this. So yeah, one thing that, it hasn't happened that often for the number of played, but there's been a handful of times where kind of, you get a band and where you're just like, dude, like it's like, hey man, like you're pushing, man, like dude. And then like,

Ryan Rayle (19:04.781)
Right.

Ryan Rayle (19:18.936)
You just, you just have the clock underneath your arm. Like the hello, tick tock motherfucker. Let's do it.

Ed (19:24.875)
There was a band that we put an out of town band. So nobody here was an out of town band that, that, yeah. There's an out of town band. Sorry. Arms getting heavy here. I don't use to do the hardcore thing. He's like a guitar in this hand. there was an out of

Ryan Rayle (19:28.33)
Rick, can you pick your mic up just a little bit? Perfect.

Ryan Rayle (19:33.934)
For those listening instead of watching, which we'll get the clips later, yeah, Rick has to hold the mic. so it's like the, it's a dude. Yeah. Look. So, so my boom arm that I have here is funny. I actually had to get a table desk mic stand to hold it up. So it would stop. It kept dropping like, yes. So struggle bus is real today, but, all right. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

Ed (19:39.305)
Right.

Yeah, we could not locate a stand in a house full of gear. There was no second mic stand.

Ed (19:54.495)
Don't do that gradually.

Ed (20:02.043)
yeah. The band I will not name, but they were they're from out there and out of town bands. We won't play with them once. It was it was a showcase thing. But yeah, they had not only did they play over and take their sweet time getting off the stage, they had a bunch of props, like a ton of props as part of their thing. And they also had a little not well, there's no, I don't know. It was it was very specific. But there was a

Ryan Rayle (20:20.822)
this might be telling.

Ryan Rayle (20:27.661)
Okay.

Ed (20:30.667)
Yeah. If I, if I told you the props where it would probably be a giveaway, but, yeah, they had it. And of course, you know, drink whatever, don't care if you drink on stage, but they just, there's a shit ton of it looked like a, like a full night of a bar up there on the stage is glasses shot glasses. like, there's taking their sweet time getting off, you know, like everything, like they have like the wives, girlfriends, whatever, come up, helping to get stuff off, but they're taking the sweet time too. And we're trying to like, just get in and get on. And I'm like, shit. And so I'm literally just grabbing glasses and throwing, you know, get, trying to get them out, right. And get on. And by the time we're.

Ryan Rayle (20:33.55)
I'm

Ryan Rayle (20:58.094)
Like, it's time.

Ed (21:00.503)
Like getting on the stage, we were supposed to like start already. And then naturally, of course, that was a, that was a learning lesson. My pedal board, had something mounted underneath and it was like a hundred and something this day. And, it melted, the Velcro and it disconnected a cable underneath my board. Had no idea. Cause I hadn't, I hadn't, secured it. Now I've got a, everything's zip tied now, right? No, no Velcro zip tied. That's how I learned. but we had like a delay of like 10, 15 minutes and hours.

Ryan Rayle (21:18.093)
Right.

Ryan Rayle (21:21.966)
Yeah, yeah.

Ed (21:28.625)
that

Ryan Rayle (21:36.066)
Right.

Yeah.

Right? That's, I, yeah, if I, like, if I heard a whole clean set, yeah, I mean, there's, there is sections, but yeah, I definitely understand that you, could, you could, you could not really suffer through a whole set on a dirty channel, but you definitely won't settle for a clean channel. I get it. Yeah.

Ed (22:01.803)
Right. It just won't work. It just won't work. And so I'm, know, and it's awkward and we're just trying to, I'm just desperately trying to figure it out, you know, then I just outside of the box, I'm like, just flip the pedal board over. Just look, just see if anything's disconnected. All the, all the known checkpoints of what could happen. There's like, I got like three or Forebode weak points in this from historically. know like if something's off, just check those things first, nine times out of 10. That's the case. It's a simple fix. And I'm just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, my problem's solved for living. That's what I look for. I'm looking for all the holes, looking for the

Ryan Rayle (22:16.76)
Mm-hmm.

Ryan Rayle (22:23.662)
Yeah, it's like NASA with the single points of failure. Like, I think... All day. Yeah.

Ed (22:31.443)
little thing. That's how my brain works. I'm just like, where's the hole? Find it. Right. And so I just flipped the board over instinctively. You know, this is like, I don't know, we start 10 minutes late and this is probably like minutes seven and I see, and I see it's just a little power cable to a pedal. I've come undone, but that power supply powered important things. And I was like, shit, this is a new weak point. This is how you figured out live in the show. Plugged it in, play three songs at least. And that was it. It's all we could pop on. Yup.

Ryan Rayle (22:46.167)
Right.

Ryan Rayle (22:53.742)
Yeah, I know, I know that, you know, so what you just explained, you know, like you said, that all happened in seven minutes, right? Seven to eight minutes. And I don't really think some people, what's the word? They don't give enough credit or they don't, don't, some people just don't have the mental capacity to understand.

Ed (23:05.148)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (23:19.402)
everything that's going through your head to make the thing work. Right. Like you said, like you're checking for this, this, this. I mean, always in sunny, right. With the red, with the red strings up to this, like, know, just connecting all the yeah, Charlie. And you're just like, okay, follow this to this, to this. mean, I, I do problem solving, you know, I'm an automotive mechanic for Genesis. And you know, when, when you're down an electrical short, you're like, okay.

Ed (23:23.911)
Yeah.

Ed (23:30.948)
Exactly. That's exactly it.

Ed (23:43.562)
Nice.

Ryan Rayle (23:46.766)
Where does it go? Right? Where does power come from? Where's ground? you know, I just, man, I could only, most people can't even take a shit in seven minutes. Right? Like you just problem solved a whole, Rick's like, I can't. okay. He's like, I'm on the post.

Ed (23:58.699)
takes a while sometimes. No, no, cannot. I wish I was. I know. in the, I'm in the, you know, can't push though. gotta, you gotta just let it come out. You know, some days you need a lot of coffee to help.

Ryan Rayle (24:13.516)
Yeah, dude. man. But that's, think that just goes, that just goes to the testament of your, of your, of your, not only willingness, but desire to play this, play the set. cause nothing, nothing's more upsetting. I would imagine not only as a fan, but from a artist standpoint that you, you didn't get to play everything that you had prepared. Right. And, but

Ed (24:27.007)
Yeah.

Ed (24:36.925)
Right. There's a statement you're trying to make, know.

Ryan Rayle (24:40.134)
Right, especially if I don't know if the album is a concept and you have to play, know this song to this song to this song or You know, there's a thread from the single that we released in February to the one in October You know what I mean? Like I could I could see that but the songs that you do play almost Do you play them better? Cuz you're like, this is all we got right like

Ed (24:52.831)
Yeah.

Ed (25:03.339)
You gotta bang him out to the best possible. It's funny. We took footage of that show. Like it's got a little GoPro and we kind of use that as like a game, game day footage, right? You know, you look, you're like, right, what went right? What didn't go right? You know, cause on stage, you know, it's chaotic. Some, you know, you, some stages are, they're all different and you get used to some of them more. You just can't hear stuff. And your perception when you're on there is like, this sounds like garbage. Like this is hot garbage. And then you see what it looked like out there. You hear, should say, and see what it sounded like out there. And it's fine. Sounds great. And you're just like, I didn't know.

Ryan Rayle (25:05.207)
Okay.

Ryan Rayle (25:12.409)
yeah.

Ed (25:33.141)
So you get used to that, right? But when you're up there, you're just thinking like, I'm just playing this pure trash, whatever.

Ryan Rayle (25:37.816)
Yeah, I've had plenty of people come up and be like, Hey man, how did that sound? And if anybody knows me, I'll tell you, like, I'm not going to like crush your soul and be like, I would rather listen to myself pissing razors, but I'll be honest with you, like that actually is a band pissing razors.

Ed (25:42.923)
you

Ed (25:53.191)
It's a local old password man, wouldn't it? They're actually coming next week. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Kate and the Crusaders are opening up for them next month I think. nice. Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (26:04.716)
Nice, nice. But yeah, it just, it's just, it's wild. Like, I'm like, no, no, no, it's, it sounded good. Maybe a little here, like, you know, this or that, or just like, dude, that fucking sounded great. And then the response is, God, man, it sounded like, like you said, just straight garbage. I got out, couldn't hear myself and whatever.

Ed (26:22.463)
Sound like doo-doo up on stage. Nine times out of ten, it's always fun. Because Austin is just geared for live music and sound. I don't know that there's been a show that I've played here that I can think of where I just went, know, or that I've been to, or I've played where I just got off and went, man, that's terrible on the stage. I like in El Paso, that's where we're both from, El Paso. And especially in like, you know, we haven't been there in over a decade, but especially in those days.

you had to bring your own PA. You had to bring your own sound. So, you know, that's kind of, think that really influenced the now that think about it. A lot of why I do what I do with pedals, because we live in the day and age where if I wanted to be kinder to myself as a vocalist and a guitarist, I wouldn't walk in with two pedal boards, right? One for my vocals and one for my feet. I would just walk in to the PA and just tell him, Hey, give me some reverb delay and like, it's fine, whatever. And then, you know, which there's nothing wrong with that, but you know,

Ryan Rayle (27:07.564)
You are, you are crazy.

No.

Ed (27:15.397)
And with my pedalboard, would just get a little unit, just get the sounds I need out of it and be done with it, right? But I like to torture myself because I was tortured in El Paso by having to bring our own PAs and think about the way you wanted to sound and carefully picking this pedal, that pedal, whatever. And I went on that journey that all guitar players go on where you buy all...

just different colored boxes that all do the same thing, but you think they do different things, you know, did all that, paid my dues, spent a lot of money and time. And then you kind of just finally, I mean, I still like, not going to say I'm like, I'm completely free of my addiction, you know, every now and I still get the bug, but it's not like where I used to have like 50, you know, and I had like a pedal board, I had this enormous pedal board like 10 years ago that was way too big. A lot of things did the same shit, didn't really matter now.

Ryan Rayle (27:40.398)
Yeah, different guy.

Ryan Rayle (27:45.698)
man,

Ryan Rayle (27:52.974)
I know you're not, Rick.

Ed (28:03.499)
I've got a condensed like everything's being used. Everything has a purpose. It's all been used in every single song. It makes sense. But some of it I could probably get programmed in, but it just doesn't have that same kind of feel. for me, that's, I've already played that way. I'm just used to like, like, Hey, I craft my stuff. Like I want to make the sound guy's job easier. Hey, just make me louder and just blend everything in. You know, I've taken care of all the details stuff, you know, I'm not going to put it on you and putting it on me, whether it sounds good or not. And that's just my philosophy.

Ryan Rayle (28:23.342)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (28:30.638)
The I was going to say the pedalboard addiction. It's it's it is real. It's out there. I mean, it is. And I'm not I'm not I've said it from day one. I'm not a musician. But over the years, I've collected some things, but I've never I've never gotten any pedals because I know that once I start scratching that itch, it's it's over. It's not like I got other podcast gear to buy.

Ed (28:36.829)
It is very real. for sure. For sure.

Ed (28:51.864)
yeah. Yep.

Ryan Rayle (28:56.77)
Like I don't need to start spending money on fucking pedals that I don't when I don't even play guitar. I just have a wall of them like hot wheels, but.

Ed (28:57.545)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ed (29:05.449)
The second I quit having my addiction hardcore with pedals, I started noticing I had more money for other things. my quality of life is getting better. What happened? wait, $200 pedals. at that. What a concept getting off the dollar menu. That's not true, but

Ryan Rayle (29:11.81)
Yeah, it's like, stop, stop buying this.

Food.

Ryan Rayle (29:22.57)
man. Yeah, definitely not. No, there is no more dollar menu. There's dollars, dollars menu.

Ed (29:27.581)
No, what do they call it? What are they peddling? It's like two for two and like Forebode for Forebode or five for five. They're value menu. They have some marketing. Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (29:34.119)
Value. Value menu. Well, one thing that is valuable in Austin, Texas is Ed. He's he's worth he is worth his weight. Ed, what what a simple just stick with gear. Let's let's go for gear. Ed, tell me, give me your gear rundown. Unless unless we stop unless we miss something in the term of in the vein of who is Tibetan Sky Burial I think we're

Ed (29:45.74)
Very valuable. Everyone needs themselves an ad.

Ryan Rayle (30:02.434)
We're pretty much nailed on that one, All right.

Ed (30:04.467)
Yeah, pretty much. Since I started joining this band, I kind of started getting into pedals as well because of this guy before he had like one pedal and we're good. Let's go. Then bad influence over here. He's like we textures, we need drives, we need buses. Yeah. I'm like, all right, I'll give some of that a try. Yeah. So as a right, being kind to me because I was almost like, dude, we need to do this. We need to do that, man. Like I was really pushing it. He's been a really good sport. Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (30:16.492)
He's like, no, look at this.

Ryan Rayle (30:33.208)
So what's your, yeah, what's your rig?

Ed (30:33.311)
I've got through a couple of things over the last couple of years. As of right now, as of this year, I did get a better setup than what I had before. I've had my Spectre Dimension bass for Forebode years, I think already, and that's what I've stuck to. Bided with pandemic money, got that stimmy and everything. like, let's put on the brand new bass. That's that's perfect place to go. Exactly. And as of right now, I got that plugged into the pedal board, which has

Ryan Rayle (30:40.878)
Excuse me.

Ryan Rayle (30:48.814)
Hmm.

You're like, I know where this is going.

Ed (31:02.815)
a dark glass compressor into a Sansa preamp. I recently bought an HX stomp, which does like multi-processing for like effects and reverb delay, all that fancy stuff. Fun fact, Ed's bass can be heard at some point, will be heard on a new Hinayana song. Yeah, I lent it to him a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, they needed something that had a larger scale and Matt saw that Ed had one. Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (31:19.628)
Ryan Rayle (31:25.508)
you're, the actual bass. thought you were doing like a guest spot. I'm like, what?

Ed (31:29.611)
No, no, no. No, the bass guitar. Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (31:32.992)
I've heard a vocalist guest spotting and somebody soloing but a guest bass? Like hold on. Ed are you shattering ceilings right now? Like dude.

Ed (31:35.467)
Yeah, I guess about it on a base.

He's got very specific sub frequencies that are discernible.

Yeah, you feel that? That's my finger. not that's never hear that anywhere other than my finger. That's where the tone comes from, man.

Ryan Rayle (31:53.358)
man. man. But that does, it is interesting where, like you know, Ricky said, you have so many pedals, not because, I mean, yes it is. I would assume that it's fun collecting some of those. just, you're walking around, you're like, that one looks fucking cool. Like, all right. Yeah. And, go ahead.

Ed (32:10.731)
Yeah. That's how it started. cool art dude. I'm like, that. That's how it started. But then it morphed into more of like, all right, I've learned enough about knowing that this and that more or less do the same thing. So don't do that. It's gotten to the place now where it's more of a...

a challenge artistically like, okay, how can I incorporate this into something new or if there's a sound in my head that I want that's more specific, how can I get these textures to make the art better? And also a test to myself, like, am I fooling myself? Is there actually a difference between this thing that I own and that thing that I own that do a similar thing or not? You know what I mean?

Ryan Rayle (32:47.18)
Right?

Ed (32:49.995)
I just picked up a pitch shifter to start using on a new track. It just kind of came to me like a couple of days or about a week ago. We have a new song and I was sitting there thinking like, I'm not happy with the lead part and I was messing around with it. And so got a reverb on and like, yeah, cool. That sounds good for it. But I'm like still not satisfying the itch. Went through like Forebode or five different riffs and then put the pitch shifter on, put it on fourths, play the lick and I was like, there it is. That's what I want. That's what I need. So now it's like, all right, I got a pitch shifter on the pedal board and I'm going to find out it's got a

a detuner function on there, basically makes it sound like a chorus pedal. So I have a chorus pedal. I'm like, now I've got two kind of different courses. Haven't used the other one yet, but it's like, all right, challenge accepted. I'll figure out a way to sneak that into a new Tibetan sky barrel song at some point. We have new textures now.

Ryan Rayle (33:34.682)
So, there's so much going on.

Ed (33:39.177)
Yeah. yeah. And it's stuff that really will only satisfy us. mean, at the end of the day, I think if you go to one of our live shows, nobody's going to sit there and be like, did you hear Rick's reverb fourths? my God. It was so mind blowing. You did it for three seconds.

Ryan Rayle (33:49.3)
just yeah just like white white knuckling white knuckling the railing just like looking at your pedal board just waiting for it to hit just like he's gonna do it do it's gonna happen right get over here what hey fucking stepped on it hey he's playing the rev he's playing like yeah i could i could man that was that would just be an interesting like comedy sketch but

Ed (33:57.877)
Yeah

Ed (34:01.621)
He stepped on it. He stepped on it. Whoa.

Ed (34:12.071)
It's like that one of Saturday Night Live years ago when all the bass drop. Remember that one? Yeah. Yeah. From doesn't matter. I'm not going to reenact it.

Ryan Rayle (34:24.654)
Excuse me. No, no, Go look it up. SNL bass drop. And yeah, so the question is, every live show has, well obviously every live show is its own unique thing because that's never gonna happen again anywhere in the multiverse. Like once it happened, it happened, it's done. And so what should people expect when they go see a Tibetan Sky Burial show?

Ed (34:44.745)
Yep.

Ryan Rayle (34:53.29)
in the terms of just like, I've never heard you, I'm walking in, my friend drugged me here, you know, we're doing this. What are we listening to?

Ed (35:01.471)
That's an interesting and good question. I was kind of thinking about that last night. I was talking to my girlfriend and

For me, sometimes when you're looking out into the audience, it's hard to gauge when you're performing what people are feeling. Not that that's what I'm focusing on, but you take that in when you're up there. Last night, I was having hard time gauging it. What I've realized is, or the realization that I came to, we're introspective music, and so there's a lot to take in with the textures or whatever, but we have a Wallace sound, I think, and I'm pretty happy with that. I think...

Ryan Rayle (35:15.373)
Right.

Ryan Rayle (35:32.546)
Yes. Can vouch.

Ed (35:36.563)
we've put enough time and effort into that. I think for some bands, it's about the fuels. like, I mean, that's wrong. Every band is about the fuels. But I think for us, it's kind of like there's that...

lower kind of like vibe of it's very introspective. I don't know. I can't say what other people are feeling, but that's definitely it came from my self introspection. That's what this music really is. So when you come to a show, you need a wall of sound, you're going to get textures, you're going to get, you know, anger and sadness in the music with some manic, you know, anxiety filled lyrics from those moments.

I saw thing the other day, was Rick Rubin talking, and just saying, every song you write, it's a journal entry. And that's all these are. Every single song that I've made, it's a piece in time from who I was at that moment, who we were at that moment, those lyrics that reflect what was going on. And you're just getting a piece of that and getting a piece of us with it. But it's going to be a sludgy, loud fest, I think. It's probably the best way I would describe it. I'm sure somebody that's seen us would describe it little differently.

Ryan Rayle (36:21.203)
Ed (36:43.945)
I think the fun thing for me is that we ever, you know, it's a compliment every time we go to a show and I never get somebody telling us we sound like the same band twice. I've gotten so many different bands from different genres, which is cool because that tells me they're, they're relating to it and they're picking, they're taking something away from it that they like from somebody else that's done a brilliant job already. And that that's a big compliment.

Ryan Rayle (36:52.578)
Yeah, that's good.

Ryan Rayle (37:07.174)
I think it does, yeah, for people to come up and say, you know, you sound like this band, then another shows you sound like this band. that kind of, it's almost a look into, you know, a look into their life. Because if they're taking your art and comparing it to another band that they like, and you're like, interesting, I wonder how we made that connection, you know? And then it's like, okay, well, I can see this or that.

Ed (37:22.986)
Yeah.

Ed (37:31.055)
Yeah, right.

Ryan Rayle (37:36.248)
Trust me, I've been on the witnessing side of bands telling band members that exact thing. Man, you guys sounded like I was listening to this song the other day and I thought to myself, my God, that's so and so and blah, blah, blah. And man, I love when fans just go off on one and you're just standing at the merch table like, right, right, dude, totally.

Ed (37:58.699)
Yeah. Yeah. It's never what band is it again? I love it because the fact that somebody took the time to come up to you and just tells you like some that they connected with it that's super important. And then whatever the, it doesn't matter what band they give you. mean, that's just a compliment because it's like somebody that has already had some level of success and has meant something to them in their lives. You know, like they went, Hey, like I'm connecting with you in this moment. So that it's really what it's about the end of the day. You know, there's a shared communal experience when you're there.

Ryan Rayle (38:03.04)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (38:07.394)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Ed (38:27.823)
I mean, on another note, mean, that's probably the thing that I love most about doing this. Like, there's a lot of work that goes into all this, but I love recording. I love being live on a stage, like in the show in those moments. And it's probably, probably the two highest points for me, you know, cause everything else, you know, you're just working towards the next thing and grinding and whatnot. So I'd super appreciate it when people come up to us.

Ryan Rayle (38:43.681)
Right.

Ryan Rayle (38:52.206)
Yeah, I really think, you know, there is like this fine line. Hold on a second, guys. I love you too, dear. Nope. Nope. You know the rules. Shut the door. Get out of here. Get out of here.

Ed (39:06.709)
We to put the baby get up for the dog.

Ryan Rayle (39:06.722)
For Christmas, I'm asking, no, it's my kid.

Ryan Rayle (39:12.654)
I need to get one of those on air signs and then like a legitimate lock on this door. Slowly turning this into my my fucking An Cave Studio. By the way, real quick, I'm digging I'm digging the backdrop you got there with the vinyls. What's the what's the one in the middle up top? Sorry, my I don't have my glasses. I can't really see that far. Yeah, that one. Yep. shout. OK. All right. Damn.

Ed (39:20.882)
Man, Kiffz, yeah.

Ed (39:30.795)
this one up here? That's Forebode boat. Yeah, we Yeah. Yeah, TJ and Guillermo and Forebode boat man. Those guys are heavy, heavy cut them at the comeback show with void which what last month two months ago somewhere on there. Yeah, was August September. Yeah, beginning of August. think we played beginning of August. It's all blurring together. I don't know. It was in recent memory. But yeah.

Ryan Rayle (39:41.72)
Yeah, they are.

Ryan Rayle (39:50.606)
Just like,

Ed (39:56.383)
Yeah, TJ, him and I connected early on, in the early days of Tibetan because I was looking for vocalists. And so I hit him up. and then we started talking from there, but yeah, they're, great. If you don't know who Forebode boat is, check them out. Doom. got two albums out.

Ryan Rayle (39:56.606)
Ryan Rayle (40:08.258)
Yeah. I need to hit them up. Write that down.

Ed (40:12.947)
Yeah, you definitely should. Super nice people,

Ryan Rayle (40:16.846)
Call for Bode. Sorry, Siri. Don't know. OK. Whoops. But yeah, I do. This is so man we could we literally could go on for hours. Let's let's jump over to new music. We've got you guys drop two singles this year that I know of. And like you said, one of them was with Roman. What else do we got in the chamber?

Ed (40:21.835)
She's like, on it.

Ed (40:36.179)
Yeah, absolutely.

Ed (40:41.032)
Yeah, t-

Might've been three. It was, I think technically it was three. So what we ended up doing, that was kind under the radar. So through all the chaos of the band, there was different drum recordings that had already been done. And Ed wasn't there for some of that and not for some of that. And the question was, what do do with this stuff? What do we, do we put this out as one release?

Ryan Rayle (40:47.822)
Three, okay.

Ed (41:12.649)
You know, do we play the single game? What's the best approach? Do we shove all of it? Him and I mold over this for a long time. And we just said, fuck it, put it out. It's already there. And because honestly the, the, we put out stoicism before you Kroona and we put out unearthed roots. yeah, that one was kind of low key under the radar. just kind of.

Ryan Rayle (41:31.758)
That's the one I missed.

Ed (41:35.819)
put that out, it was a tribute to a late friend of mine. wasn't written as such. The song was written as me imagining my own death when I was, this is like in 2019 or 2017, it's an old song. My friend unexpectedly passed away and I looked at the lyrics and there was just kind of a lot of things that I'd already written that just really just were very specific to her and I just interpreted it in a new way. So was a dedication to her. It's got a really, really cello piece on there.

Ryan Rayle (41:59.232)
that's cool,

Ed (42:02.315)
It's not something we played it live for a bit in 22, but it's not in our, in our live set now. I just honestly, I'd rather prefer to have it played with the live cello and we have the playbacks for it, but it's just really, just really pretty. We did it actually on our very first show that we've ever did. It was a live stream in 2020. Yeah, it was a live stream. was.

Ryan Rayle (42:15.49)
You mean like bring an actual cellist on stage?

Ryan Rayle (42:21.922)
Dude, Brock, fuck, dude, hell yeah. Shout out to those days, man.

Ed (42:31.531)
forget the of the studio it was that. Spotlight? Safe Flight? Something like. Maybe, I don't even, yeah, don't, Safeway, I don't know. Safe House. Safe House. Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. He was onto something, that's what it is, that's what it was, yeah, yeah. I think it was something Safe. Yeah, good job. We did that. Yeah, honestly, not, I wouldn't say it was the best performance of those songs, but it exists online still, it's still there. I think it might be on our YouTube page.

Ryan Rayle (42:35.278)
Safe flight, safe flight repairs, safe flight, subway, safe house, safe word.

Yeah, there it is. It was safe. I remember that. wonder, man. Anyway.

Ed (43:01.763)
yeah, so we, you know, we finished up, we, Ed and I decided to put out all songs when we put that one out. we put it out on Bandcamp first and then we just kind of uploaded it subtly thereafter to everywhere else. Just did some light soft promotion because it was honestly written and recorded at the time of Lamenta probably would have been on that album, but the song wasn't finished when we wanted to put it out. And so I was like, I don't want to rush this track and

Now that I'm thinking about it, when she passed away, I wrote the synths. I think that was kind of something that fueled the synth textures that are there really interact with the cellos a lot. And I don't think if I had that jolt of inspiration like I did in that cathartic moment that that would have completed the song. So that was kind of the missing ingredient. It's a weird thing, but the synths were very important to that track. that fueled that. Stoicism was also written at the same time as Lamenta.

Ryan Rayle (43:47.873)
Right.

Ed (43:53.931)
Drums, can't remember if they were recorded at the same time or not. Stoicism? Yeah. No, we did those later. The song was already written, but we hadn't recorded anything yet. Yacruna was the first track Ed really was able to be able to put his mark on, like on a recording.

Him and Roman cuz that that's when he him and Roman joined the band same time in 21 Romans the one that got me in Yeah, actually, that's right. I forgot about that. Yeah, just like nonchalantly started like talking to me on Instagram He's like, you doing? How's everything going? I'm like, why are you talking to me man? What's going on? what are you getting? He's like, so we like your stuff You want to like come try out and see what we're about? Yeah, Roman Roman had already told me about and he remember

Ryan Rayle (44:16.462)
You

Ryan Rayle (44:21.23)
He snuck in. I don't like you. Get away.

Ed (44:36.523)
You know, when he, when him and I were working on the project in those days, he was, he was like, dude, there's this guy on Instagram. just posts all these videos playing bass all the time. Like, you know, he plays like, let me hit him up. And I'm like, all right, cool. That's what it was like on my end.

Ryan Rayle (44:45.4)
you

Ryan Rayle (44:50.498)
You

Ryan Rayle (44:54.134)
man that sounds that's perfect there's this guy that just plays bass online I swear to God that's that's man he's a real boy man

Ed (44:59.665)
He's real, promise. know. bass all day. But he knew you from going to Aaerial show. That was the first thing. It was that every Aaerial show. yeah, yeah, Stoicism came out and then we did that. They all got mastered at the same time. And in the mastering process, we were going put them out as one release because we had, there are a few things that we have shell that are not going to see a lot of day. Like there's a few tracks that we did with Roman that are just...

Ryan Rayle (45:06.232)
Right.

Ed (45:25.995)
We didn't record them, the demos exist in the early days. There was a remix that we put out. I forgot about that. Yeah. Yeah. Omens remix. Yeah, we did do that. That was more of a vanity project for myself because I didn't feel like Omens was really complete the way that we put it out.

When we were, and I were still trying to figure out what we doing with the band, we just went ahead and if anybody follows Miss Steak online, it's her Instagram name, she's the one who did the remix for that. she added her textures on there. But that's what we put out this year and it was gonna be one release, but it just wasn't possible. there, you know, if you know anything about recording engineering, you can deal with some subtle changes, but overall the mastering engineer was like.

Ryan Rayle (45:53.442)
Okay.

Ed (46:11.979)
look, I can master all these if you guys really want to do, but I really don't recommend it because there's just, they're all different. They're all a little bit too different. And so we just took his recommendations like, well, we are, we're already this far in, like we're already recorded. I guess we're going to put out Forebode singles. We don't really have a choice now. So that one artwork that we had now has turned into Forebode. Money flying away.

Ryan Rayle (46:31.662)
Yeah, like, here's all that pedal money I was saving gone just I thought I thought I was making progress savings account gone. man. But it's it's all for the love.

Ed (46:38.633)
Yeah. But honestly, I mean it.

Ed (46:45.907)
Yeah. But you know, it's such as a live musician. Yeah. So but it worked because honestly, every single song has a different timestamp flavor to it from a different era of this band and shows the evolution. It really does. I think like with most artists, if you look at their body of work, you know, most most bands, right, you tend to see the progression. And I think that's kind of what's going on with those like

we're gonna put a lot of work into our next album that's gonna be, we're gonna be working on the springtime. We've got two new songs right now that we're putting in our live sets. We're just kind of testing stuff out. Probably rotating the third in at some point and some set at some show here in the near future. Maybe the December 7th show, we'll see. Some new music? Maybe. Maybe.

Ryan Rayle (47:15.342)
Cool.

Ryan Rayle (47:28.332)
What? I'm sorry. What'd you say? December 7th. Wake up people in case you forgot. December 7th, 10 year anniversary showcase. Now we got to show up guys.

Ed (47:36.159)
Looks like I just made a promise online that we'll have to follow through with. surprise. So yeah, we'll let Kay and Rick know we're going to add a third song in two months. And then we've got a few other ones in the back burner that we're working on. think I probably have three or Forebode that are just sitting on my laptop in various forms of demo stage.

Ryan Rayle (47:45.774)
That's cool.

Ed (47:53.513)
him and I kind of like hammer out a lot of the riffs here, you know, he's between like cooking dinner and taking the dog out, whatever. you got five minutes before you go to the next thing you got on your schedule. Yeah, cool. it out. that's kind of how it goes.

Ryan Rayle (48:06.434)
So you guys are currently living together. You guys are roomies.

Ed (48:08.479)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Three years in. Yeah. Yeah. We've been living together since the band fell apart. Yeah. We live together and pieced it back together together. Like the same week that he moved in is the same week that Roman and and Shane were like, Hey man, we're to have to leave the band because of this and that. Yeah. Yeah. Like we just moved in. We got a whole year in this lease. We might just keep the band going. 2022 was one of the most intense years of my life. That that that's

Ryan Rayle (48:18.574)
my god

Ryan Rayle (48:26.574)
my man. woof.

Ryan Rayle (48:34.577)
ahhhh

Ed (48:38.275)
That wasn't me. That's not even how it started. It started with my friend passing and we led to that. I moved, changed jobs. Tons of change. The band fell apart. We just basically rebuilt everything. It was a shitty year.

Ryan Rayle (48:48.492)
Man, that is wild. I thought when you said you moved in, I thought it was like then and since then you've parted ways, not you moved in then and still currently live together.

Ed (48:53.492)
Yeah.

Ed (49:04.031)
Yeah, it's actually, you know, we rent but the house is pretty, pretty big. need affordable rent. So we can't really move out. Otherwise, we don't have stuff to waste money on. Yeah. And it's like,

Ryan Rayle (49:06.403)
Wow.

Ryan Rayle (49:11.822)
totally understand. Desperate times, desperate measures.

Ed (49:15.327)
Yeah, it works for the dynamic. mean having, you know, cause like again, it's like it's invaluable just being able to like talk band business over just random moments you have on the way to doing this or that. That's how him and I get a lot of stuff done. Otherwise, if we were doing this through threads or text messages, whatever, cause we're all busy and sometimes you get busy, you throw something down and you go about and things answer that. I

Ryan Rayle (49:26.412)
Right.

Ryan Rayle (49:36.013)
Yep.

Ed (49:36.587)
It really cuts out all that him and I just get things done way more efficient because there's a lot. think without him, there's a lot of things that would fall through the cracks and vice versa, which we keep each other like pretty, pretty on top of it and different aspects of the band, you know? So that's the trade off.

Ryan Rayle (49:49.938)
Yeah, it's important. mean, I think that's cool that you guys, because you can be in a band with someone. mean, a band is a family, obviously. And like you said, you go through some members, things change. But to actually live with somebody and be in the band with them, that's like next level commitment.

Yeah, and that and that's kind of the sneak that's kind of the sneak peek is you know if you if you get the opportunity to tour with your with your bandmates Being you know cramped inside, you know daily grind in and out taking showers at Planet Fitness or wherever you can get access to one and and Just grinding it out and then you can you get back off tour God would never live with that person right like holy

Ed (50:40.599)
the

Ryan Rayle (50:45.794)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (50:50.818)
Yeah, you're like, really? Dude, so exactly.

Yeah, and like, already know what snacks they're gonna grab and I know what you know, after that snack, they're gonna let one rip in the back, we gotta roll the fucking window down. Like don't and and like don't go to this place because that's not you know, it's like you learn. Yeah, you learn. Now go for it, go for it. And I like how you looked at the screen for your hand placement instead of just looking over.

Ed (51:09.226)
Yeah

Ed (51:14.675)
We food allergies. know food restrictions. take two seconds to fix my headset here because this little hair is just pissing me off. I'll hold it.

Ed (51:27.369)
you

Ryan Rayle (51:32.974)
God. fucking love you guys, man. This is fun. And we're back. So. We've got again. December 7th, come and take it live. Not exactly sure what time we're going to kick this party off. Doors are probably going to be I'd say Forebode or five somewhere in that ballpark. We got we got 10 minutes. So this is this is the first time anyone.

Ed (51:34.805)
There you go. All right. There we go. And we're back in and we're back.

Ed (51:54.537)
Okay. Is it pretty hefty lineup?

Ryan Rayle (52:01.014)
is going to know about this. This is an official DJ exclusive. I've told, I've kept it under wraps. I've told the only people that know are obviously come and take it and Anthony Stevenson and all of the bands that are involved. That's it. I have shown no in the list. It's been, I've God, man, it's been, it's been hard is the man. It's a great lineup.

Ed (52:03.146)
Nice

Ed (52:22.185)
Is there a good lineup? Right.

Ryan Rayle (52:25.614)
but I'm not going to tell everybody what the lineup is because I need to interview all the bands. Actually, they'll know on December 10th, duh. but yeah, we're so this will be out on, sorry, Octav, thank you. Thank you. I'm going to, going to hit, going to hit pause and then rewind. I'm going to cut that part out and then here we are. So on October 10th, 10 10 at 10 AM,

Ed (52:33.451)
You

Ed (52:37.451)
October 10th.

I figured we were all, like, we're not after the show.

You

Ryan Rayle (52:55.764)
is when the official announcement goes out as to the lineup and all that jazz. This is just a little sneak peek that we're going to drop next week before, but I wanted to just make it be known that it's a curated lineup of Texas heavies and locals that have a connection with the podcast, like a very specific connection.

It's not just I picked these names out of a hat because these are the people that were available. Like I specifically sought out everyone in this lineup. And I, like I said, I couldn't have, I actually didn't give two shits about y'all's music before I interviewed you long time ago. And I don't, and I don't mean that like I didn't care about it. I just, I guess I was just, I was just ignorant to it, right? Like I just was not exposed to it. But after talking to you guys and getting to know you guys just

Ed (53:43.391)
Not aware. Never heard it. And not in the radar.

Ryan Rayle (53:52.27)
personally, I think that's what really helps me as just a person, as a fan, get more into the music. And I can't count since that interview to date, I've enjoyed your music on Sunday morning worships, right? on days, on days that I just had to, it's like I didn't want to, I didn't want to listen to anything, but I wanted to listen to something, but nothing specific. And, and I know that

Ed (54:00.607)
That's cool, man.

Ed (54:08.267)
Very much appreciated.

Ryan Rayle (54:21.39)
kind of sounds weird that you anyway because of the wall of sound and there's so many textures there's like your dude 100 % it's mood music and it just

Ed (54:28.779)
It's mood music, it's got a mood to it.

Ed (54:34.579)
I will say if you go to our show and like you got a party band and we play, I'm sorry. We're not trying to be downers, like, this is kind of like moody stuff.

Ryan Rayle (54:40.502)
Yeah. It'll get you thinking about some shit, you know? Like I like to listen to what I'll do in... Actually, I have this... This is actually a great segue. Ryan, you've been doing this for 10 years, man. You're getting better at it every day. I listen to... I pick a band and do a starter radio playlist.

on Spotify and then just let the algorithm take me where it takes me. Today, the algorithm led me to cadaverous condition. That is a band. Based off of your music, it took me to cadaverous condition. yeah, I just, wanna, because I was listening to the new stuff and I...

Ed (55:10.973)
Nice. Yeah.

Ed (55:21.144)
I believe it. wow. Interesting. That's invaluable market research there. I'm gonna deep dive on that one.

Ryan Rayle (55:35.276)
was just kind of looking down and writing notes. I remember, I just remember thinking to myself, I feel like this is different music. And I looked up and sure enough, it was a different band. I was like, holy cow. you know, every band has a sound. But when you're accustomed to it, you kind of can pick out the nuances and be like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's not Rick on the mics anymore. Who is this? Who is this? But I'm really not sure where I was going with any of this outside of I'm super stoked to have you guys on.

Ed (55:51.562)
bread.

Ryan Rayle (56:04.658)
the showcase. And I think if, if, if you've, if you're, if you're still hanging in there with us, whether watching or listening, and, and I wanted, I want one thing to be true or one thing for you know, to be true is that these guys are, are what makes the local scene good. And yeah, I mean, it's, it's, know that we're friends and, and, and, you know,

Ed (56:06.333)
it's we're honored to be here, man. Such a blast.

Ed (56:24.37)
thank you. That's a huge compliment. Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (56:30.582)
Honestly, you don't really, I feel that we don't hang out enough, right? But then no one would have enough, no one would have enough time for everybody in the scene, right? So you get, excuse me. So I feel like these shows, when I have an opportunity to throw one, it's more than just a show, right? It's a chance to catch up and, you know, house life and, you know, see it, you know, what's going on. Yeah, it's a vibe. It's fucking mood music, man. Yeah. And

Ed (56:35.135)
We all have lives. Yeah, I know. no.

Ed (56:52.363)
Yeah, it's a vibe. It's got like party, like a good friend party feel to it. Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (57:00.27)
The one thing that I've been noticing or that I've been focusing on this past year when I talked to locals is, you know, what are you expecting from your local promoter? What do you, you know, what is the, what is the expectation of just, Hey, do you want to play this song or do you want to play this, this show? It's on this date. here, some tickets. You guys do it. Like, I really feel like we're on a comeback. The, like the middle one with, when the podcast first started in 2014, late 2014, early 2015.

Ed (57:28.715)
you

Ryan Rayle (57:30.626)
There was this like energy from 15 to 19, more like 15 to 18, I want to say, but like just the back half of those teen years was banned. Like I saw a memory come up or August Burns read headlined at Dirty Dog Bar, sold out show and it probably cost 15 bucks. And they also had, think, Era on that set. It was just madness, but it was in this little tiny lunchbox of a venue and

I, didn't have, no one cared. It was like, I'm here for the music. People walking by and obviously the pandemic hit and took out dirty dog bar and other venues and kind of put this like, kind of put this yuckiness in the air. that was a bad pun. because there was a yuckiness in the air. but it, it, it made shows like, God, you're going to a show.

Ed (58:08.778)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Ed (58:18.848)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (58:26.078)
And there was and there was and I feel like yeah, like it just.

Ed (58:26.367)
Yeah, yeah. We even had a few that like, that just kind of got like with it, they were on, they were off. And then, you know, it's like, should I be going to this when you're going to ones, you know?

Ryan Rayle (58:33.591)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, there was this, there was just this hanging cloud over, you know, going back to a show too. So, which I understand, like I was, I was, you know, on the fan of, or I was on the side of, let's, you know, let's play it by ear. Let's, let's be cautious, you know. But the one thing, you know, now shows are back. Obviously they've been back for years now and they're just getting better and music is, you know, evolving and, and things. But the thing that I feel is still lacking is that local

Ed (58:51.476)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (59:05.612)
just energy. don't know, man. just, I feel like the lack of promotion on the promoter side, again, I'm not like, I'm not sliding anybody here. Like if you're a promoter and you're, and you're working your face off, keep doing it. Keep fucking doing it because that's what helps, right? Like stuff like this, getting the word out, letting people know who you are, what your sound is, where your show is. And

Ed (59:19.71)
Yeah.

Ed (59:25.663)
Yeah. yeah.

Ryan Rayle (59:32.878)
I just want like, want that back. And that's the vibe that the 10 year anniversary show has is let's bring back that 2014, 15, 16, dude, we're fucking, we're going to a show, you know? Yeah.

Ed (59:47.883)
we need that communal vibe, know, band supporting bands. And I hate to say this, you know, this isn't this my Debbie Downer moment of the podcast, but, you know, was watching, Rick Biotta, right? You know, he's doing all these interviews and he's doing these little, soundbite clips. And one of them was, looking at the top hundred, whatever, you know, are on the billboard charts, right? Only one.

Ryan Rayle (59:55.564)
This guy.

Ed (01:00:12.841)
band, not any genre of band. We're just talking about a group of Forebode humans playing stringed instruments was on that list in the last like five years or so. And they're all solo, single artists. And this is technology. This is where we're at, right? It's the algorithm. It's more efficient to work solo as a solo artist. You cut out everybody else. You can produce everything in your laptop.

Ryan Rayle (01:00:23.31)
BOOOO

Ed (01:00:34.307)
And you know, kids like this is what they're accustomed to. And that's why every generation is going to be different. And that's just kind of what it is. Cause it's hard to get together a group of people to buy these expensive things and schedule and have lives and go out there and do the crazy shit that we do. Yeah. You it's a, when you, you're, know, you can, I mean, you can, you can do it alone these days. Right. and that's just, I think that's some of it.

I think the pandemic really killed a lot of, it changed the face of a lot of towns and a lot of local scenes. That's why you got to support, support your local scene, support, support your local venues because we played Lost Well over the first time, just August, we were stoked to do that. And then now they're going down. It's another mark of old Austin and what makes our city unique. That's tragedy, right?

Ryan Rayle (01:01:17.582)
What's going?

Ed (01:01:24.483)
And you you, you can't think that it'll never happen to any place or venue. You just don't know, you know, and you got to support, support, you know, each other, the venues like that. Having a community is super, super important. And that's, I think that's my biggest takeaway at the last, you know, launching a band during the pandemic and trying to figure this out. Like we got an extra learning curve on top of that, you know, and, I, I really, it's like support everybody that you can. mean, like.

Ryan Rayle (01:01:45.656)
Mm-hmm.

Ed (01:01:51.635)
However you can. mean, shit, played with the band we played with on Wednesday, illusion of faith. There's guys from Wisconsin, cool ass dudes, right? Next day their van breaks down. You know what I mean? And it's like, they need support. So they put on Bandcamp, I threw it up on our Instagram. It's just like, hey.

Yeah, I of them. Go check them out. like listen to the music. If you like the music, buy a shirt. Why? Because they need it right now. You know, they're gonna have their van is stuck in Houston. They're going back to Wisconsin with the other Wisconsin van, right? But they got to get that van transported, you know, and like, and honestly, like super shout out to illusion fate. Really, people should check them out.

Like they put on a great fucking show. Their bassist is a maniac. This guy was really good. Great performer. Like running up Valhalla stairs in the middle of the performance all the way to the top of the pool tables are I don't even know why did it then ran back down and went on the stage just and he played also in the band after his energy was through the roof. Yeah. Yeah. They've got they've got some cool stage props to like they're from Wisconsin. Yeah. He actually kind of looks like our other guitar player to be honest. He looks like he looks like Rick. I was like, is Rick on stage right now?

Ryan Rayle (01:02:29.134)
Hey.

Ryan Rayle (01:02:40.066)
Holy shit

Hahaha!

Ryan Rayle (01:02:50.862)
The Ed from Wisconsin. That's great. You need that as a shirt,

Ed (01:02:53.099)
you

Ed (01:02:57.579)
that should be our our our band puncher there's your face on a shirt from Wisconsin

Ryan Rayle (01:03:02.254)
man. Ed from Wisconsin. God damn, that's funny. That's funny. Well, there is and that you know, and I hope and I hope that there's, know, a Rick and I hope that there's a Ryan and I hope that there's you know, I hope that there's a you. I hope there's a you out there. Obviously, you're out there. Support your local scene. That's what it's all about. I think that's the that's going to be kind of like the the

Ed (01:03:09.105)
There's one head in every state.

Ryan Rayle (01:03:29.484)
the theme of I don't I don't do themed parties. I mean, just support local music. That's the party I throw. But yeah, I think the theme is just going to be support your local scene because, know, I get asked all the time by Anthony tour packages will come through. Hey, who do you think will sound, you know, who would fit into this box? Right. And as much as I love, you know, giving any type of valuable information, which I think is really cool that I've

Ed (01:03:48.736)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (01:03:57.346)
that I've become one of those people that are relied on to give that kind of information. And so I really do my homework. I try to like, okay, this band, okay, this, that, this, that, but at the end of the day, I also like doing these showcases because I get to showcase the talent of Texas from, you know, sludge, introverted metal that just makes you think about God knows what on a walk through a dark forest in

the middle of March while it's kind of foggy. And then we've got hardcore, then we've got metal core, then we've got, you know, math. God, man, this lineup is disgusting. It's man. If you are a just purveyor of music, if you just love ones and zeros, riffs, blast beats, the China goes ting. You know what I mean? Like, fuck, it's going to be.

Ed (01:04:38.269)
It's gonna be a good good line up.

Ed (01:04:53.791)
That should be a shirt that China goes ting.

Ryan Rayle (01:04:55.968)
Okay. So I made a funny on the socials and that was that that was, and I thought of it. I was like, dude, this hashtag, this is a good one. China goes Ting. And I was like, there it is the shirt idea. So I'm gonna try and get some shirts made for just like, like, you know, maybe some special edition one-off shirts, just China goes Ting. But anyway, it's yeah, just, just a word just here.

Ed (01:05:08.085)
Ha

Ed (01:05:12.479)
Nice.

Ed (01:05:17.291)
That'd be great. Yeah. Well, we'll tell the drummer, you got to put one China Ting in the set. Just one hit. Last note of the set.

Ryan Rayle (01:05:26.606)
But that's what makes it fun. You know, that's what makes it fun is you know, China goes ting. And then that puts something in your head, like, and then that puts a sound and then that sound converts and it's just, it's really rad how you can put it all together. Especially in seven minutes when nothing works, right? So guys, I appreciate the time that we spent today and I really look forward

Ed (01:05:46.507)
Yeah, plenty of time.

Ed (01:05:53.947)
Absolutely man, thank you for having us. yeah, man.

Ryan Rayle (01:05:55.854)
I really look forward to December 7th and watching you guys just rip it apart. I don't have much more information outside of that, honestly. Like I don't have set times, doors, like, well, yeah, but we got plenty of time. We have plenty of time. But again, for everybody listening and watching, this is Tibetan Sky Burial. These two dudes are a part of, they are woven into the fabric of our scene. it is, I mean, they're like, without them, it would be

Ed (01:05:58.911)
fun doing these.

Ed (01:06:07.477)
Plenty of time. We'll figure it out.

Ed (01:06:20.031)
Yeah

Ryan Rayle (01:06:25.426)
God man, when you guys break up, it's, it's, it's going to be bad. I'm gonna have a tear. Yeah. Sorry. Let me, let me rephrase that. That was, that was rude to think that you guys would ever break up. when, when the music stops, you know,

Ed (01:06:30.219)
I don't know. don't know if it's been fully rigged. Probably hiatus at some point where we're like, you know, I lost my leg in the war. got a.

Ed (01:06:46.443)
It's a lot if we don't pull a Jane's addiction, you know.

We won't punch anybody on stage. I deep dove on that the other day. had a few moments to just like decompress after working on sitting there on my couch and I'm just like, so what the hell happened here? And then heard the audio from Perry Farrell and I was like, man, this dude's like, he's got, he's got a wine bottle on stage from the show before. you're just like, yeah, it's all right. All right guys.

Ryan Rayle (01:06:55.086)
Woo!

Ryan Rayle (01:07:00.142)
Eugh.

Yeah, you're like, he didn't punch him. Like, no, he hit him. Hit him twice.

Ryan Rayle (01:07:10.562)
But yeah, I'm excited. I'm really excited and I'm happy that you guys came on board. think I drunkenly confessed my love to Ed one night. And it was like, dude, I've got it. was like, dude, I've got to have you guys on the show. You're so good. love you. But it's it's worth it. The love is the love is real. It's it's palpable, too, especially whenever you get in the room.

Ed (01:07:14.172)
or stoked to.

Ed (01:07:21.195)
You

Ed is lovable.

Ryan Rayle (01:07:39.254)
And one thing I do want to ask before we get out of here is who from a local, like local on local, who should people pay attention to? We already mentioned for Bode. What about like who else should we look at? pay attention to.

Ed (01:07:56.543)
Like that's already established on the up and coming.

Ryan Rayle (01:07:58.382)
Doesn't matter who have you heard in the past, I don't know, six months that you're like, man, more people should know about this.

Ed (01:08:06.453)
Dang. I mean, I got, got a list here. can rattle off. mean, like I've, I've, I've, we played with deep cross, glassing is kind of local and kind of not these days. mean, Indiana. Yeah. Yeah. Glassing. you know what?

Ryan Rayle (01:08:14.19)
I'm gonna write these down.

Ryan Rayle (01:08:18.67)
It's a deep cross.

Ryan Rayle (01:08:24.64)
Okay, that's a new band to me that I've heard a couple times come up. Glassing.

Ed (01:08:28.799)
That album right there. Yeah, they, they're they're here, they will half here, half in L.A. And I actually think they're split between three cities now. They're in Europe right now, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're they're they're doing pretty well. Their music's great. I love that album, Twin Dream. Well, throat piss, we play with throat piss a lot. They're super rad throat piss rules.

Ryan Rayle (01:08:32.494)
where are they from?

Ryan Rayle (01:08:39.732)
Okay.

Ryan Rayle (01:08:49.165)
Okay.

Ryan Rayle (01:08:54.718)
I knew it. I'd already had that one written down.

Ed (01:08:58.175)
Yeah. They're great live too. Like it's not just good music. see their homies. They're great people too. I love hanging with those dudes at their shows. I go to as many throw up his shows as I possibly can. They're fun. Yeah. Good people.

Ryan Rayle (01:09:10.742)
I will have to attend another one. want to say I went to one at Indie Brew. I can't remember. That might have been it.

Ed (01:09:16.659)
Yeah, they played it. Yeah, I think they played there like maybe last year or things some more other they are playing at Hotel Vegas at the end of October with Hellfury and Batlips. think it's a Halloween show. 31st. Yeah. Extra plane.

Ryan Rayle (01:09:21.698)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (01:09:30.241)
There's another band, Batlips.

Ed (01:09:33.835)
We're playing with Mars God, Batlips and Needle Freak November 7th of Ahala.

Ryan Rayle (01:09:38.606)
Hold on needle. I love these.

Ed (01:09:40.905)
Needle free. Yeah. Yeah. There's two pieces. Yeah. The bass and drum. Yeah. Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (01:09:47.02)
That's all you need. That's it. That's it. And at Valhalla too. Yeah, that checks out. Dude, I think we should just take over Valhalla, right?

Ed (01:09:51.083)
That's it. Well, hold on. It's going to be perfect for that stage.

Ed (01:09:57.259)
Valhalla. It's interesting. I think I feel like Valhalla is already was doing, you know, they already had their, built in thing going on. but excuse me, I think unfortunately with, with lost, well going under, feel like maybe shows are, I think they're getting spread out, but I feel like I'm seeing a lot more of a hollow shows in the short term.

Ryan Rayle (01:10:04.077)
Yeah.

Like they got the food upstairs?

Ryan Rayle (01:10:16.074)
trust and believe that Vahalla was not really on my radar in the dirty dog days. think just because I don't think it. Yeah, I think it was something else. I, dude, I.

Ed (01:10:26.667)
I don't think it was active too much back then. something else. It was like a Irish pub, right? No, that was the one next to it. Was it? Beanie Riley's? Maybe. My brain's getting I feel like with Dirty Dog not being there, that's what brought more attention to like the Red River area. It's true because I'm going really date myself with the one that was across the street. They used to Red Eye Fly and then it was Sidewinders. Sidewinder.

Ryan Rayle (01:10:38.123)
as

Ryan Rayle (01:10:44.002)
Yes.

Ryan Rayle (01:10:48.258)
bread I fly. Sidewinder. Damn it. man.

Ed (01:10:51.039)
That's where we got our first couple of shows when I moved up here. And then Beerland, the 13th floor now is there too, where that used to be Beerland. Cause we saw a glass and an anthropist there last March. This March, March. can't remember.

Ryan Rayle (01:11:03.33)
Well, think we need to, as much as I love Come and Take It, it's like, it doesn't have that walk, I call it the walk-up ability, where you're just, you hear sounds on the streets, and you're just like, how much? 10 bucks? Okay. you know, and, that's another thing I forgot to mention. At 10 o'clock on the 10th of the 10th, October, I almost did it again,

Ed (01:11:15.883)
You can just go check it out.

Ryan Rayle (01:11:32.954)
for hours, I thought about doing it for 10, but I was like, well, we'll do it for a whole, but you will be able to buy a ticket for $10. We, I'm take, I am taking it back to the $10 days where you get to see just, just tens. It's like that dude on the, on the, on the lawyer, just the fours, four, four, four, four, four, four, four, Like me tens is on the, on the tens. It's like, yeah, it's like the weather channel.

Ed (01:11:45.931)
This is the 10, 10, 10, 10. The 10 for 10.

Ed (01:11:55.314)
Yep. This is the 10th special. 10 10 10 10, October 10th at 10 AM for $10.

Ryan Rayle (01:12:02.104)
your local weather on the 10s. That's actually that's a real thing, by the way.

Ed (01:12:03.677)
On the tens that you should launch it that day. Just put that like jazz music in the background.

Ryan Rayle (01:12:11.596)
All right, guys, I'm having way too much fun. I got a whole lot of stuff to do. I don't want to take up any more of your time. Again, guys, Rick, Ed, Tibetan Sky Burial, you guys, I'm so excited to have you guys on the show. December 7th.

Ed (01:12:27.243)
Always a pleasure being here. Yeah, man. December 7th, we're at Come and Take It. Our next upcoming show is November 1st. We're at Come and Take It for Bruca's album release show. That's going to be great. We've got Sparrows from Dallas coming in. We also got Unholy Desecration from San Antonio, Locals of Varenthe, and Lord Bannerlord. We're playing with those guys again next day at Kick Butt for Day of Dead Fest 2. Slim Marine Sun is going to be on that one with Cleaver and Stitch Dub.

probably forgetting a couple bands. There's a lot of bands that you're forgetting. And then November 7th, we got our show. So yeah, be on the lookout for that. And we've got some new music coming up next year. At some point we'll be writing come say what's up to us. You see us, man. You know, sometimes I got stank face on, but that ain't nothing to do with how I'm feeling. That's just, that's just show. I mean, yeah, I'm a, but, come say what's up. It's a merge.

Ryan Rayle (01:13:01.006)
It's just like Rick, stop talking.

Ryan Rayle (01:13:19.579)
yeah. Just... dude.

Yeah, bring a hundred. Here's what I'm telling everybody. You got to bring a hundred bucks, right? You got $10 to get in and then there are 10 bands. Actually, yeah, if you bring a hundred, just spread the money out, right? You don't have to buy everything from every band. Just, you know.

Ed (01:13:25.151)
Help us support doing us this crazy shit that we do.

Ed (01:13:45.899)
We got stuff as cheap as $2 up to $25. We got $8, $10, we got everything,

Ryan Rayle (01:13:49.194)
See? Yo, and I will say, Tibetan Sky Burial merch game is on. It's unmatched. It is, dude, it is... Candles? And you make them yourself, correct?

Ed (01:13:56.597)
Shameless plug. I got candle right there. Yeah, we got candles. Coaster right there. made all those. We got authentic candles for everybody.

Ryan Rayle (01:14:05.688)
Yep. You got patches. Jesus, man. You could just fire up one of these candles. Do you guys have vinyls? Okay.

Ed (01:14:10.249)
Yeah.

Ed (01:14:14.035)
Not yet. We're going to, yeah, we're definitely got that in the works for the second release. Y'all can hold me to the fire on that.

Ryan Rayle (01:14:18.318)
I can just see myself lighting a Tibetan sky barrel candle and then letting the record just...

Ryan Rayle (01:14:28.92)
so.

Ryan Rayle (01:14:46.739)
yeah.

Ryan Rayle (01:14:51.998)
I cannot begin to stress to anyone that, and so if anyone knows the podcast in its infancy, this was started by myself and one of my best friends, Christopher Crowe. We are still best friends, but he passed the torch to me a long time ago, right about after COVID. That's about, yeah, that's how long I've been doing it by myself. since 2020, which is cool. I've really enjoyed doing these.

Ed (01:15:14.461)
Nice. Almost five years.

Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (01:15:20.334)
solo, but I do miss, I do miss the camaraderie, the back and forth, right? So I'm always, if anybody else wants to join any Sunday, you're more than welcome to as a cohost or just a guest. don't care. And, and it, it's really cool. But he told me, he said, dude, this is like 2016, 17. And that was his advice. He said, just get loaded and go take a shower. Just, just see what happens.

Ed (01:15:30.611)
Nice. Sounds good.

Ryan Rayle (01:15:49.324)
That's that is about the moment when I actually started paying attention to bass. Like I don't mean that in a bad way. It was it was like the glue that was just missing in my head. And then I and now I can't not hear it. Right. It's. Wild.

Ed (01:16:04.523)
Same friend of mine had described that, who, you know, he was trying to understand our music. He was trying to describe him. How do you listen to bass? I never hear it. I'm just like, you don't hear bass, you feel it. And then they're like light bulb. It's like, yeah, that's what it is.

Ryan Rayle (01:16:15.337)
Mm-hmm.

It's man, it is, you know, it is the the glue, you know, percussion side. It's it's, it's that it's that middle ground. And if you don't have bass, if you don't have the right bass, there's plenty of basses out there, tones, thick, nit like, but, know, if you ain't got that oomph, if you're not, like you said, feeling it, it's just man, the song just sounds so empty unless you're actually going for that vibe, then cool. That's keep going.

Ed (01:16:47.465)
Yeah. Yeah. Everyone can have them an ed, get yourself an ed. Get yourself an ed and you'll be all right.

Ryan Rayle (01:16:48.418)
But yeah, man.

But yeah, get yourself an Ed. Okay, that's what we'll call this episode. Tibetan Sky Burial, get yourself an Ed. I got it. I love it. I love it. All right, guys. Any final shout outs or thank yous before we get out of here?

Ed (01:17:00.249)
Available in all colors.

Ed (01:17:11.179)
You got anything? No, thank you. Anybody has came to our show, talked to us, bought a piece of merch, put us on a bill, promoted us like that's about the community. Like, thank you all. Thank you for having us. Really appreciate it, man. Thank you for everybody has helped us stay afloat. Yeah. More than anything, and actually lets us know that you guys listen to our music, you know.

Ryan Rayle (01:17:23.352)
Yeah. Yeah, dude. That's

Ryan Rayle (01:17:30.83)
That's where it counts. think when you think that sharing a song may not be, I don't know. I would just say this, any time that you feel like you should share local music, share it. Or any music. Or any form of art. Don't, I mean, unless it's like, nevermind, I'm not going down that road.

Ed (01:17:48.735)
Yeah. Absolutely.

Ed (01:17:58.356)
Yeah, no.

Ryan Rayle (01:18:00.43)
But sharing local music, exactly. Share what's positive. And if you think that this song about, I mean, even some of the slam songs that I listen to, their vibe is just brutal, just nasty, throat slitter, something. I don't know. But if it's a local band and you dig what they dig and you're on their team and you want to continue to support their journey, then just

Ed (01:18:02.347)
share something that you think is positive. There you go.

Ed (01:18:11.924)
You

Ryan Rayle (01:18:30.486)
share their stuff, like it, comment. You want to see them come play this, you know, man, I'd love for this. And then that lets them know like, okay, shit, we got a lot of people that like to see us in San Antonio, right? Because that's the only way they're going to know. Send them a message, fucking tag them, you know, whatever. Every time I'm out on a run, any band that I listen to that stood out, I always tag them in the run afterwards. Just like, hey, I was jamming your music and it got me through the day. But yeah, I'm excited, man. I'm really, I really want to get this show.

Ed (01:18:40.426)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (01:18:59.918)
just out there promoted and, and I want to pack the room with as many $10 tickets as I can. And, yeah, dude, I'm let's sell the fucking market cap, not the market cap venue cap. Seven 50. I dude, if we broke, man, if bro, if we could imagine, imagine a locals only show selling out 750 cap venue.

Ed (01:19:09.579)
We're gonna pack it with all of them.

Ed (01:19:17.54)
that that'd be rad. We can get some 50 in there. Absolutely. Don't get you better challenge.

Ed (01:19:30.03)
that's mind blowing. That'd be incredible. That would be insane. Yeah, I would too on stage.

Ryan Rayle (01:19:32.33)
I would I would short like, because I wouldn't know which one I wouldn't know what to do. Do both. I would just do both. Anyway, yeah, let's sell it out. Man, that would I would I'd quit. I'd hang it up. I'd be like, done. Just

Ed (01:19:39.783)
Ha ha ha!

Ed (01:19:49.428)
Yeah, I'd be like, this is our last show. That was great. can't talk this guy with the bag guys. Thanks for being here. That was the best one. We're done.

Ryan Rayle (01:19:56.302)
Just go out on top. God, man. Man, I'm excited now. All right. Yeah, exactly. Super Bowl, Stanley Cup, World Series, all in one. Done. But anyway, guys, thank you very much. I'll have this out soon. Stick around, let the thing do its thing. then December 7th, come see these guys. Obviously, and you can go, if you want to get your fix earlier, you can.

Ed (01:19:59.851)
Yeah. We won our Super Bowl. There you go.

Ed (01:20:06.815)
You

Ed (01:20:17.291)
December 7th, we'll see you all! Come take it!

Ryan Rayle (01:20:22.574)
Check them out on the socials. I'm assuming you guys have all your links and stuff posted up to shows. yeah. Duh. What are the links? Maybe we should mention that.

Ed (01:20:25.737)
Yeah, everything's there. It's all linked there. Go to our link tree. in our Instagram.

Yeah. Why not? Yeah. It's a bet in sky burial, Texas on Instagram. same thing on Facebook. If you go to our link tree, we're going to have our Spotify there, YouTube, using Apple, iTunes, all that. Whatever you use to listen to the music, watch our music video, listen to our growth, our YouTube, watch her some old footage of us, whatever you want to do. Buy some merch on bandcamp. There you go. Links there as well.

Ryan Rayle (01:20:42.648)
Perfect.

Ryan Rayle (01:20:52.368)
yeah. Yeah. dude, I'm, I am going to stop leaning on Spotify and I'm going to, I don't know why I haven't done it sooner and just make the switch to Bandcamp because that is, that seems to be the place that gets the most. mean, it, yeah, it's, it's like, I don't want to deal with all this. Here's my stuff, right? Like direct. Why can't I find my mouse? There it is. Anyway. Yeah. But all right.

Ed (01:21:06.293)
grassroots.

Ed (01:21:15.059)
Or work in both worlds, you know? I'll find some cool stuff on there.

Ryan Rayle (01:21:20.204)
Yeah, I just I feel like Bandcamp is almost just like more personal. Just it's not. Yeah.

Ed (01:21:24.924)
It is. is. Yeah, it's a to directly connect. If you go directly to that band, you find the music, you listen to that music and that's it. Spotify. We're in the algorithm game.

Ryan Rayle (01:21:30.83)
Plus, and it also has the community section on there as well. Like that's what I really like is that it's like look in the community. And then it also has the, you know, like if you like this, then you like that, you know, it's really cool. It's really, I mean, obviously it's been there for years and they've been cultivating it for years and years and years, but yeah, it's all about grassroots support your local scene. $10, Tibetan sky burial coming at you 10, 10, 10, 10, December 7th. All right, I'll catch you guys later.

Ed (01:21:42.025)
Yeah, definitely.

Yeah.

Ed (01:21:50.129)
Absolutely. Ten dollars. Ten buckaroos. Ten ten ten ten. Come check us out December 7th.

Hahaha.

All right, later, man.

Ryan Rayle (01:22:00.45)
Peace.